Comments on Moserware: Does Your Code Pass The Turkey Test?

Great!! you told good programming practise in such...

2012-01-16T08:16:04.093-05:00

Great!! you told good programming practise in such a nice and humor style. LIKE!!

bfff.... Americans.... Thought that all the world ...

2011-09-09T08:39:05.777-04:00

bfff.... Americans.... Thought that all the world things and does like them....

For me is unnatural to write month then day then year, because I write day/month/year.

all the world use Celsius as degrees, and just Americans (and UK) use Fahrenheit... All the world use Meter and Kilogram, and they use feet and pounds.

Thank you very much for sharing this, it's gre...

2011-07-06T17:31:50.456-04:00

Thank you very much for sharing this, it's great.

I believe in Turkey they have a very similar test called the "American Test" where they do all the same types of tests but with American style inputs.

aib: Thanks for the extra tidbit ...

2010-12-11T09:14:56.889-05:00

aib: Thanks for the extra tidbit :)

John Cowan: It's always great when an author explains his technical position rather than speculating. Thank you for doing that here in response to Sahin's comment.

I no longer believe in that 1997 post; there is to...

2010-12-07T16:43:36.645-05:00

I no longer believe in that 1997 post; there is too much English-Turkish or French-Turkish bilingual text in 8859-9 (Latin-5) to make it feasible, to say nothing of Unicode stability issues.

Actually, Turks don't get 45% discounts. We ge...

2010-08-13T07:43:23.852-04:00

Actually, Turks don't get 45% discounts. We get %45 discounts - another thing to watch out for.

Anonymouses: Thanks! Sah...

2010-04-05T21:16:20.472-04:00
Anonymouses: Thanks!

Sahin: Interesting proposal. Having two "i"'s would indeed provide more context.

Hi Jeff, thanks for the post which warms up an old...

2010-04-05T15:14:38.155-04:00
Hi Jeff, thanks for the post which warms up an old pain in (en)coding and gives the opportunity to remember John Cowan's proposal for Resolving dotted and dotless "i" dated as early as 1997. As far as I know this proposal (like the similar ones for ASCII set etc.) found no response from the western-centric circles and in Turkish "cases" we can sort that the big "Ignorance" comes first, then comes the "inequity". -Sahin

As a Turkish citizen i like the last joke, that Fr...

2010-02-26T12:47:38.113-05:00
As a Turkish citizen i like the last joke, that Frank Sinatra thing. :)

Excellent job in writing about these locale issues...

2009-04-06T12:57:00.000-04:00
Excellent job in writing about these locale issues.

okuryazarkişi: Are you saying your wrote copytaste...

2009-03-14T22:58:00.000-04:00
okuryazarkişi: Are you saying your wrote copytaste.com? The date seems to display in my USA locale. Other than that, it doesn't seem that this service uses any localized handling other than using Unicode.

Am I missing something?

hipero: Thanks for stopping by and writing a post about this in Polish!

Hi! Great job :). I was looking for something like...

2009-03-04T03:05:00.000-05:00
Hi! Great job :). I was looking for something like this to show all the topic in one post. Linked on my blog: http://karolchecinski.spaces.live.com/default.aspx

Your blog is now in my RSS reader :)

So what do you think about our project? Did you su...

2009-02-23T10:13:00.000-05:00
So what do you think about our project? Did you submit any post? Did you check it? I think it can be past the test :)

Javacikiz: I agree that most people use English wh...

2009-02-21T16:59:00.000-05:00
Javacikiz: I agree that most people use English when programming. This post refers to potentially unexpected things that can occur with strings in different locales. For example "i" will go to the uppercase "İ" in a Turkish locale/culture using the default ToUpper() function. If you're not aware of this, you can experience problems (like those I faced and mentioned above).

okuryazarkişi: How do you handle right-to-left languages like Arabic? :) There's always a different locale that can cause issues if you're not prepared.

We're living *around Turkey and we past the test e...

2009-02-19T15:30:00.000-05:00
We're living *around Turkey and we past the test easily :)

http://www.copytaste.com/z0755c2

*around: I mean İstanbul actually since 29.10.1979 :) Did you see?

I am from Turkey too, in addition I use java for m...

2009-02-17T16:39:00.000-05:00
I am from Turkey too, in addition I use java for my programs. However I do not think I have a problem with this letters or other stuff. We can use English characters rather than Turkish. For example Japanese or Russian people don't use their own language for programming.

On the other hands it can be useful to have a Turkey Test and our Flag on it:) I really like to read your article:) Thanks for it and also for the people who comments:)

Roimer:

The "\d" Regex pattern will match a...

2009-02-09T09:57:00.000-05:00
Roimer:

The "\d" Regex pattern will match any character in the "number, decimal digit" Unicode category. This page lists them. There are about 230 in this category. The first 10 Japanese numbers don't match this category. Perhaps because they can be used for more than just how we use digits. For example, var japaneseDigits = Regex.IsMatch("一二三四五六七八九", @"\d+") returns false while the Regex in this post returns true because the Arabic digits I used were in that "number, decimal digit" category.

Thanks for the international comment!

This is a Great Article: almost a year and it is s...

2009-02-07T10:23:00.000-05:00
This is a Great Article: almost a year and it is still having commentaries. Since last six month I had been trying to write code that work properly in most of our target cultures (Latin America, USA and Spain), I haven't idea that Regex could treat as digit to any digit (it can detect japanese digits too? like the character ichi?). I'm going to read more about all this issues; thansk again to Moserware for the article, and all of you for your commentaries.

PD: Sorry for any misspell7mistake, I'm not a fluent English speaker.

Prasad Paluri: You're definitely right that this a...

2009-02-03T22:33:00.000-05:00
Prasad Paluri: You're definitely right that this article just covers some basic issues. Encodings can be quite challenging. I found the Joel article that I linked to in this post helpful. It briefly touches on DBCS and its relation to Unicode and encodings like UTF-8.

This is a good article but Turkey Test doesnt cove...

2009-02-03T19:15:00.000-05:00
This is a good article but Turkey Test doesnt cover the issues with DBCS character set. In my opinion other than char 'I' issue, international tester should use "Japanese Test" and shouldn't worry about "Turkey Test". This article might be misleading some International tester.

Miral: Yeah, it's a bit contrived. I was thinking ...

2009-01-29T21:21:00.000-05:00
Miral: Yeah, it's a bit contrived. I was thinking of matching misspellings like "portirat". This was brought up in a comment on reddit as well.

That regex in #3 is a bit nasty... it'll not only ...

2009-01-29T19:49:00.000-05:00
That regex in #3 is a bit nasty... it'll not only match "portrait" and "port", but also "portttti" and "portair"...

Anonymous #1: I mentioned floating points in #2 (s...

2009-01-16T21:23:00.000-05:00
Anonymous #1: I mentioned floating points in #2 (specifically using System.Double). Did I miss something?

Anonymous #2: Thanks for the clarification! I used Sinatra's name since I got the idea from "Made to Stick" where they refer to the idea as the "Sinatra Test" as mentioned in the post. I didn't check to see if the book ultimately clarified the rigth source.

"New York, New York" was actually written for Liza...

2009-01-14T17:13:00.000-05:00
"New York, New York" was actually written for Liza Minnelli and Frank Sinatra subsequently appropriated it.

It looks like the test forgets to mention one thin...

2009-01-14T03:13:00.000-05:00
It looks like the test forgets to mention one thing: parsing floats. Many European countries use , as the decimal separator instead of . and this causes problems in programs that let you enter such values.

Comments on Moserware: Does Your Code Pass The Turkey Test?

Great!! you told good programming practise in such...

bfff.... Americans.... Thought that all the world ...

Thank you very much for sharing this, it's gre...

aib: Thanks for the extra tidbit ...

I no longer believe in that 1997 post; there is to...

Actually, Turks don't get 45% discounts. We ge...

Anonymouses: Thanks! Sah...

Hi Jeff, thanks for the post which warms up an old...

As a Turkish citizen i like the last joke, that Fr...

Excellent job in writing about these locale issues...

okuryazarkişi: Are you saying your wrote copytaste...

Hi! Great job :). I was looking for something like...

So what do you think about our project? Did you su...

Javacikiz: I agree that most people use English wh...

We're living *around Turkey and we past the test e...

I am from Turkey too, in addition I use java for m...

Roimer:The "\d" Regex pattern will match a...

This is a Great Article: almost a year and it is s...

Prasad Paluri: You're definitely right that this a...

This is a good article but Turkey Test doesnt cove...

Miral: Yeah, it's a bit contrived. I was thinking ...

That regex in #3 is a bit nasty... it'll not only ...

Anonymous #1: I mentioned floating points in #2 (s...

"New York, New York" was actually written for Liza...

It looks like the test forgets to mention one thin...

Roimer:

The "\d" Regex pattern will match a...